Thursday, January 24, 2013

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What do you think about this poem about moral relativism?
I?m reposting this because the poem got chopped off at the end (this is my first time asking, and I?m trying to figure it out!) Basically this is a summary of the worldview without God?feel free to comment on or bash away! :)

by Steve Turner
We believe in Marxfreudanddarwin
We believe everything is OK
as long as you don?t hurt anyone
to the best of your definition of hurt,
and to the best of your knowledge.

We believe in sex before, during, and
after marriage.
We believe in the therapy of sin.
We believe that adultery is fun.
We believe that sodomy?s OK.
We believe that taboos are taboo.

We believe that everything?s getting better
despite evidence to the contrary.
The evidence must be investigated
And you can prove anything with evidence.

We believe there?s something in horoscopes
UFO?s and bent spoons.
Jesus was a good man just like Buddha,
Mohammed, and ourselves.
He was a good moral teacher though we think
His good morals were bad.

We believe that all religions are basically the same-
at least the one that we read was.
They all believe in love and goodness.
They only differ on matters of creation,
sin, heaven, hell, God, and salvation.

We believe that after death comes the Nothing
Because when you ask the dead what happens
they say nothing.
If death is not the end, if the dead have lied, then its
compulsory heaven for all
excepting perhaps
Hitler, Stalin, and Genghis Kahn

We believe in Masters and Johnson
What?s selected is average.
What?s average is normal.
What?s normal is good.

We believe in total disarmament.
We believe there are direct links between warfare and
Americans should beat their guns into tractors .
And the Russians would be sure to follow.

We believe that man is essentially good.
It?s only his behavior that lets him down.
This is the fault of society.
Society is the fault of conditions.
Conditions are the fault of society.

We believe that each man must find the truth that
is right for him.
Reality will adapt accordingly.
The universe will readjust.
History will alter.
We believe that there is no absolute truth
excepting the truth
that there is no absolute truth.

We believe in the rejection of creeds,
And the flowering of individual thought.
If chance be
the Father of all flesh,
disaster is his rainbow in the sky
and when you hear

State of Emergency!
Sniper Kills Ten!
Troops on Rampage!
Whites go Looting!
Bomb Blasts School!
It is but the sound of man
worshipping his maker. (i.e. ? nothingness ? since he believes there is no creator -comment mine)

Steve Turner, (English journalist), ?Creed,? his satirical poem on the modern mind. Taken from Ravi Zacharias? book Can Man live Without God? Pages 42-44, I?m not trolling.
And the poem was for everyone to read?not just atheists.
Atheists are not the only people who are being depicted here (people who swear by horoscopes and believe in UFO?s and bent spoons ? ESP & telekinesis, etc.)

?History will alter? ? umm?this is a satire?but anyone can ?spin? history?have you ever read ?Lies My Teacher Told Me?? ? a whole book of how this has been done in HS history books
You?re right about the title it should have read ?a poem about a worldview without God?

Answer by Blaise Rascal
I?d say it really sucks, but that?s subjective.

Answer by eric k
Sounds like sour grapes from someone who can?t accept people with differing opinions.

And it?s too didactic and over-literal to make good art. As a poem it?s doggerel.

Answer by accretion
it is quite unaspiring, and is very generalizing about peoples and thier motives, actions, and thoughts
it is BS

Answer by Dear Dogma
I?m no fan of moral relativism??

or long winded English journalists.

Answer by JStrat
Not an accurate reflection of moral relativism and not an accurate reflection of non-believers. As to the former, it?s a misunderstanding of how moral relativism works and of it as a philosophy aligned with individual morals, and as to the latter, it?s a misunderstanding of the non-theist?s worldview, since there are as many of those as there are non-theists.

In short, it?s shoddy work, I?m afraid, if it?s meant to be even remotely reflective of reality.

Know better? Leave your own answer in the comments!

Can somebody explain the word ?believe? to me?
I?m looking at this analytically/scientifically because that?s just how I work. The word believe does not make sense to me. I have a more specific question but please hear me out before answering my question at the bottom.

1. The definition of the word ?believe? is exactly this, according to Google Web Definitions: ?1. Accept (something) as true; feel sure of the truth of: ?the superintendent believed Lancaster?s story?. 2. Accept the statement of (someone) as true.? It lists synonyms such as ?trust?, ?think?, ?credit?, ?deem?, etc.

3. People usually use the word ?believe? in reference to a particular religious or spiritual faith such as ?I believe in God? or ?I believe in the bible? or ?I believe in Judaism? or ?I believe in the Flying Spaghetti Monster? or whatever. Santa Claus, horoscopes? the list goes on and on. But when people use the word ?believe? in this sense, they mean they think whatever they believe in claims an existence or truth in our physical world. When people say they believe in a religion or whatever, they mean that their minds are committed to the idea that their faith is correct.

3. Same thing for stories. Somebody tells you a story based on what they say actually happened. You don?t know for sure if it happened or not, but you choose to either believe or not believe that what that person is saying is true.


For my senior English class, we have to write a paper about something we ?believe? in, but the teacher wants us to write about concepts we place in high value. She wants us to write about something like ?I believe in kindness? or ?I believe in equality?. Just for examples.
My problem is this: How can you say you believe in kindness or equality? Both exist. I have literally seen kindness and I have literally seen equality. I don?t think anybody would argue that either of those things have happened in the world and that at one point in history, good has come from both. Virtues and values are literal concepts whose results can be and have been tested and observed over thousands of years, so how on Earth am I supposed to write about merely ?believing? in something when I know positively that it exists? Am I missing something about the word believe?

If not, then I don?t believe in anything because believing in something is just committing your mind to what may or may not be true. ?Believing? is ignorance. Knowledge is everything.

I have to write an essay on something I believe in.

Answer by GeneL
Nice essay?you?ll probably get an A+.

But, did you have a question?

Answer by Theyon
You could try, I believe in the stupidity of this assignment.
Anything you believe in you will think is true, though you?re right about the kindness and equality thing. Though you could try, I believe that people should be kinda to one another and practice equality. Or I believe that a world with kindness and equality is better than a world without.

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